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		<title>By: Nikos</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The author is more or less right about the myths and I fully agree that the demonstrations are the first step. One thing though that is happening and I believe that we should all see it as positive is the fact that people are gathering and they discuss also except only protesting and yelling &quot;thieves go away&quot;. This one is something that at least in the Greek society has not happened before at least in my life time. Now if a focused movement of change will come out of that that&#039;s another story. But it is the first step.

About direct democracy: Indeed in ancient Athens it was not the majority of the population that was deciding. But nowadays we have a great helper to achieve that all people in a society can participate in the decision making on a daily basis.

And that is technology. It is very very easy with our current means of technology to set up a voting system where people can vote and express their opinion and most importantly control those that are implementing those decisions.

At the end of the day I believe that what brought us here where we are is that we gave up the governance of our societies to individuals without the ability to control them on a daily basis.
If we now compare the representative democracy system we have in Greece at least is more or less like having two dynasties of Kings that they and their descendants take  turns in reigning the country.

So we don&#039;t you change that? one might ask. We don&#039;t you vote for somebody else? You are the people, you have the power.

The conclusion that I have made, which might be tottaly wrong, is that the political system of representative democracy is fundamentally wrong.
Giving the power to govern a country to somebody and abolish also all the controls mechanisms corrupts the individual.
He is more vulnerable to temptations as he knows he can&#039;t get caught. At least that&#039;s what modern Greek history has shown to us. So after a while even people with honest intentions submit to the norm.

And again another question arises: So if somehow you achieve to implement direct democracy what makes you think that the people won&#039;t get corrupt also? My answer which might also be very simplistic, is that the people are too many to get corrupted.
They might  be mislead but not corrupted.

I believe that we have an obligation to future generations to find or rediscover if you like a new form of government that will serve the public interest instead of the interest of small groups of people.

In that sense I believe that  the indignant movement should strengthen and we all should help towards that direction so the opinions of the people can be heard in public and out of the chaos and new idea to emerge. A new idea on how to govern our societies in favor of the people.

So let the myths exist :-) They might be a good excuse to get together and change everything. We have nothing to lose.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author is more or less right about the myths and I fully agree that the demonstrations are the first step. One thing though that is happening and I believe that we should all see it as positive is the fact that people are gathering and they discuss also except only protesting and yelling &#8220;thieves go away&#8221;. This one is something that at least in the Greek society has not happened before at least in my life time. Now if a focused movement of change will come out of that that&#8217;s another story. But it is the first step.</p>
<p>About direct democracy: Indeed in ancient Athens it was not the majority of the population that was deciding. But nowadays we have a great helper to achieve that all people in a society can participate in the decision making on a daily basis.</p>
<p>And that is technology. It is very very easy with our current means of technology to set up a voting system where people can vote and express their opinion and most importantly control those that are implementing those decisions.</p>
<p>At the end of the day I believe that what brought us here where we are is that we gave up the governance of our societies to individuals without the ability to control them on a daily basis.<br />
If we now compare the representative democracy system we have in Greece at least is more or less like having two dynasties of Kings that they and their descendants take  turns in reigning the country.</p>
<p>So we don&#8217;t you change that? one might ask. We don&#8217;t you vote for somebody else? You are the people, you have the power.</p>
<p>The conclusion that I have made, which might be tottaly wrong, is that the political system of representative democracy is fundamentally wrong.<br />
Giving the power to govern a country to somebody and abolish also all the controls mechanisms corrupts the individual.<br />
He is more vulnerable to temptations as he knows he can&#8217;t get caught. At least that&#8217;s what modern Greek history has shown to us. So after a while even people with honest intentions submit to the norm.</p>
<p>And again another question arises: So if somehow you achieve to implement direct democracy what makes you think that the people won&#8217;t get corrupt also? My answer which might also be very simplistic, is that the people are too many to get corrupted.<br />
They might  be mislead but not corrupted.</p>
<p>I believe that we have an obligation to future generations to find or rediscover if you like a new form of government that will serve the public interest instead of the interest of small groups of people.</p>
<p>In that sense I believe that  the indignant movement should strengthen and we all should help towards that direction so the opinions of the people can be heard in public and out of the chaos and new idea to emerge. A new idea on how to govern our societies in favor of the people.</p>
<p>So let the myths exist <img src='http://www.reinform.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  They might be a good excuse to get together and change everything. We have nothing to lose.</p>
<p>Nikos</p>
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